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Please, publishers (general but I have a clear name in mind...) if you release a story where a woman is having a lot of sex with two men, please, please, don't try to pass it as a M/M, please don't put it under the "gay/lesbian" genre... if you are really convinced that the gay romance or M/M romance is a passing fashion, and that the future is a menage between a woman and two men, so, be true to your claim, and use your "menage a trois or more" genre, and let the "poor" gay romance alone in their "reserve".

If you are wondering why I'm ranting, well, enough to say that I just read an unbelievable blurb tagged as M/M...

Date: 2008-12-12 03:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pandorasvase.livejournal.com
It is the point of view. If the story talks about the two princes and the woman is in background, then I could understand the M/M but so...

Two men in the same story and in the same bed are not necessarily a gay romance. :P

Date: 2008-12-12 03:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elisa-rolle.livejournal.com
True. This publisher in particular, claimed in the past that the gay romance is only a passing fashion and that the future was in the menages. So, all right, devote you to publish very good menages, but not tag them M/M, to please, or draw, the readers you decide to not want. Elisa

Date: 2008-12-12 03:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pandorasvase.livejournal.com
Remember me about a italian publisher's manga.

I don't understand this. Ok, it's business but the words flies. One time I let go, second time I think very well before to purchase.
Now, I don't know which publisher you talk but I'm sure it is not the only one out there.

Date: 2008-12-12 03:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elisa-rolle.livejournal.com
Exactly, it's not the only one, and truth be told, if not for one or two authors, I will not frequent it at all. Elisa

Date: 2008-12-12 03:27 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
If this publisher believes gay romances are just a sort of nine-day wonder, why tag this book, which is obviously a ménage à trois, m/m? I agre with you, it doesn't make sense. It may even be seen as hypocritical. Or maybe they're just negligent.

sara

Date: 2008-12-12 03:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elisa-rolle.livejournal.com
> It may even be seen as hypocritical. Or maybe they're just negligent.

Maybe one thing, maybe both :-) I believe there is a market for ménage à trois, I don't like them, but I'm not here to judge the taste of others. They have some very good menages title, and it would be better, for me, that they pay more attention on how they tag the books. I'm slowly becoming tired to have to guess what I will found if I buy the book. Elisa

Date: 2008-12-12 08:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lee-rowan.livejournal.com
My guess would be the publisher wants to ca$h in on the 'fad' of m/m books and is hedging her (his?) bets by tucking a woman in.

Now, I've got a situation coming up in a story where m/m lovers do wind up with a woman. But it's a bit different and I hope my readers don't get upset.

Date: 2008-12-12 08:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elisa-rolle.livejournal.com
As I said, if the story is well written, I can read a menages, and then usually your publisher is very careful in tagging the book, no surprise with them. And also the main publisher they will merge with is good as well. Elisa

Date: 2008-12-13 02:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leeteng.livejournal.com
Oh Lee, I am upset as I have been waiting for your next release :(

Date: 2008-12-13 02:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lee-rowan.livejournal.com
Well, this doesn't happen in Eye of the Storm, which is the new book due out January 1, so you don't need to worry anytime soon.

I've never set out to write formula romance, though. I think it's important to give my characters a believable happy-ever-after, and the best way for two men to be safe in the early 19th century is for at least one of them to be married to a woman they can both trust. Just bear in mind that "menage," in its broadest interpretation, doesn't necessarily mean 3 or more in a bed ... and that's all I'll say on that subject for now.

I have a completely different book for a different publisher in progress right now. There's a more-or-less bisexual chap in that one, but he's not one of the main characters.

Date: 2008-12-13 09:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elisa-rolle.livejournal.com
This is quite the way chose by Terry O'Reilly in Awakening (almost not the same) and I like that book. Elisa

Date: 2008-12-13 09:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elisa-rolle.livejournal.com
But it depend how much different... give to Lee another chance :-) Elisa

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