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reviews_and_ramblings ([personal profile] reviews_and_ramblings) wrote2009-03-26 09:24 am

The ramblings part of the journal

I really should let not the spur of the moment drives me, but it's the second time that I slept very bad since I had a not nice conversation soon before going sleep. Since I was careless enough to start this thing online, even if then continued in private, if there are people who witnessed to that, please don't make name, I really am not writing this to bring damage to another person, but only since, if I take it inside, it will burst later in a bigger way.

More or less 2 months ago I received a nice review request, and a lot of you know that I really appreciate those. It was from a new author and new publisher, so I was even more glad. Have you notice that I give priority to new authors and publishers? It would easy enough to raise comments on famous authors, but I really think that even the newest author deserves a first chance. I'm not sure but I think that I'm quite alone in doing so, and I believe so since many authors wrote to me telling that I was their "first". And most of the time I already bought the book when they ask a review, it happened only yesterday with two requests, I already had the book.

Anyway when that request arrived I was pretty clear with that author, I said that I didn't buy the book by myself since I believed it was a menages with a woman on the side, and you all know that I don't really like them. The author assured me that it was not and so I accepted the book. I even read it as soon as possible, to give the author as much more visibility near the release date as possible. I started the post giving a warning to the content of the book, specifying that it was not a menages, and received comments, even from the author, saying that many people didn't understand it and was grateful for the warning.

Then nothing for a month; after a month another review site reviewed the same book, starting the post in the same way as me, warning the readers on the content of the book; at that point the author (or the publisher) realized that they were losing readers and took the right measures. All right, two voices are better than one, but now the author is thanking that second review site saying that all started on it. I gently made notice that it was not exactly like that and the author in different comments replied to me that:

1) maybe my review had not so much space or visibility... yes right, that month my LJ had 13.300 single visits when the average for a review site is 3.000/4.000 (those are the standard to be considered "review site"), and the review remained in the front page for a week, I always try to not let them shift on second page for a reason, you know?

2) maybe people didn't read the review since I'm not enough M/M focused (on the contrary of the other review site) and so people didn't understand that it was not a polyamour book... yes, right, if I was more M/M focused I would be a man! I reviewed 1057 books at yesterday and only 20 are M/F and only 73 are menages, and among the menages only 9 with a woman, so 29 books with a woman in 1057 means a 2% of all my reviews.

3) maybe on the other review site the post received more response from people... yes, right, my review received 22 comments from 6 different people, 4 of them not involved directly with me or the author, on the other site it received 16 comments all from reviewers of that site other than 1. 22 comments... yesterday the post in which I featured Allan Hollinghurst, winner of a booker prize, received 17 comments...

So am I taking all this wrong? Should I stick with Man Candy Posts, Gay Romance Movies, and reviews of books that will be read anyway? Should I write reviews in which I say that every book is terrific? Should I ignore a review request from an unknown author and publisher till some other review site spend its time to "taste" it in advance? I know that the answers to all these questions is NO, but authors please, when you send me a book to review could at least take a look at my LJ? NOT ENOUGH M/M FOCUSED?!?!

[identity profile] elisa-rolle.livejournal.com 2009-03-26 12:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you Charlie. I'm not used to fanfiction world, so I have no way to compare, but I should learn to, as Dante said "Non ti curar di loro ma guarda e passa / Don't care of them but look and go on (more or less)". Elisa

[identity profile] charliecochrane.livejournal.com 2009-03-26 12:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Or 'non illegitimi carborundum'. Never let the bastards grind you down... *g*

[identity profile] elisa-rolle.livejournal.com 2009-03-26 12:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you :-)

[identity profile] gs-wiley.livejournal.com 2009-03-26 01:05 pm (UTC)(link)
since I'm not enough M/M focused

That's hilarious. Practically the first thing I do every day is log on to see what new male/male treat you have to offer!

I wouldn't worry about ungrateful people. It might be petty, but if she comes out with any other books, just don't buy them or review them. There are plenty of other new authors who'd be insanely grateful for exposure like this!

[identity profile] jshillingford.livejournal.com 2009-03-26 01:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Elisa, your reviews are wonderful. Even when I don't agree with you on a particular book, I always see something new in it because of your review. I, too, find new authors because you reviewed them. And, I think you deserve more credit. Many M/M fans know about your reviews, and one review from you is enough to help them decide on a new author to try. I know it is true of me. Jem

[identity profile] joelyskye.livejournal.com 2009-03-26 01:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, it was certainly your m/m focus that drew me to your livejournal, and that was before you were kind enough to review one of my books!

I hope your migraine is gone, Elisa, and that you feel better soon. You're doing a great job here.

[identity profile] elisa-rolle.livejournal.com 2009-03-26 01:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh well, maybe I should go to Casablanca and under surgery, so maybe even that 2% will disappear...

I really believe it wasn't malicious, but it is the clueless that made me so upset, and the careless of reply... you can say a lot of thing of me, but that I'm not M/M focused, please not! I even lost friends due to my "focus".

Elisa

[identity profile] elisa-rolle.livejournal.com 2009-03-26 01:18 pm (UTC)(link)
You know Jem, when I went on YAOI Con in SF, I had my badge pinned to my shirt, but only for being allowed inside the convention, and instead it happened more than one time that people stopped me and said "You are Elisa, the Manlove Amazon lists"... I was so in awe to be recognized since really, sometime I have the feeling to be a duck that swim alone in her pond. I have never hidden that I have a bit of an ego, and so you can understand how I appreciated that thing. And I'm also grateful to you since at the beginning you directed some publishers to me, and I remember it. But then something like yesterday night happens, and makes me so upset. Elisa

[identity profile] elisa-rolle.livejournal.com 2009-03-26 01:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you Joely :-) And no the migraine is not gone, but I believe it's not only fault of what happened yesterday night. I have to go home in 4 hours more or less and I will take something for making it pass. Elisa
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[identity profile] alex-beecroft.livejournal.com 2009-03-26 01:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Well 'not enough m/m focused' is plain ridiculous. I don't see how you could possibly be more m/m focused! (And I like it this way :) )
I think it's lovely that you give priority to new authors. I know we are quite fragile creatures in general, and can easily be crushed if our first review comes from one of those sites that likes to snark. I still remember my absolute glee when you reviewed Captain's Surrender! One of the high points of my life :)

*Hugs* Don't stop doing what you do! You make a lot of people happy :)

[identity profile] elisa-rolle.livejournal.com 2009-03-26 01:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you Alex, I know I'm on the right path and that probably I shouldn't write post like this one, but I'm fragile myself, even if maybe it doesn't seem. Some day more than other, and probably this happened in a wrong day. Elisa

[identity profile] jshillingford.livejournal.com 2009-03-26 01:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Unfortunately, when you write reviews you put yourself out there if you do thoughtful, meaningful review - which you do.

I used to let myself get upset every time I got an "unhelpful" click on one of my Amazon reviews. I nearly became obsessed wondering why they thought it wasn't useful! Then I remembered that many authors are grateful for reviews from people who actually read the work and take the time to give clear, detailed reasons of what they thought.

I was happy to send publishers and authors your way. And will continue to do so. Your reviews are worth reading. I only wish I had the time to read more of the books you recommend!

[identity profile] gs-wiley.livejournal.com 2009-03-26 01:53 pm (UTC)(link)
No, I'm sure it wasn't malicious, and on further reflection, maybe my comment was a little harsh.

But it frustrates me that there are a lot of writers, not all newbies, who don't get that romance writers are a dime a dozen but reviewers who will give more than a summary of the book (and sometimes don't even demand a free copy!) are gems that should be appreciated! (Good luck with that surgery!)

[identity profile] diannefox.livejournal.com 2009-03-26 01:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Your LJ is very m/m focused, and I (and all the other commenters, obviously) like it just the way it is. Your reviews are often the first time I hear about new books.

I'm sorry that author doesn't appreciate what you're doing or how much you offer the m/m reading and writing community. Your dedication to the community is something that we all benefit from. If she doesn't understand that, then it's her loss.

[identity profile] anahcrow.livejournal.com 2009-03-26 01:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, dear. That was tactless of them. :( I love it when you review my work, because you do read so widely and have such a good understanding of what makes a romance work. I don't know many other reviewers who are so devoted to the romance-writing community as a whole.

As for whether or not you're m/m-oriented enough, that's a laugh! You are very dedicated to the genre both in writing and film and art. Your reviews of everything from eye-candy to novels are always classy and gracious and honest. We're lucky to have you.

(Also, I'm sorry you have a migraine. <3 I know how much worse they make everything. It's so hard to be tough about being disrespected when you're already down with that pain. I hope you feel better today.)

[identity profile] elisa-rolle.livejournal.com 2009-03-26 01:57 pm (UTC)(link)
> I used to let myself get upset every time I got an "unhelpful" click on one of my Amazon reviews. I nearly became obsessed wondering why they thought it wasn't useful!

same here. Now I don't care more, since I realized that it's really random, I receive a "unhelpful" click when mine was the only review and since the publisher was small, there wasn't even the product description... how could my review being "unhelpful"?

[identity profile] elisa-rolle.livejournal.com 2009-03-26 02:00 pm (UTC)(link)
> Good luck with that surgery!

Oh no, I'm still to fond of my female side to let it go ;-) Elisa

[identity profile] elisa-rolle.livejournal.com 2009-03-26 02:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you Katrina. Probably the simple reason is that they don't know me and send the book at random. Next time I will be more careful to whom I devoted my very little spare time. Elisa

[identity profile] elisa-rolle.livejournal.com 2009-03-26 02:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you, since you understand in plenty what I'm trying to achieve. Elisa

[identity profile] elisa-rolle.livejournal.com 2009-03-26 02:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you I really appreciate the "classy" definition, I always strive to make this LJ a nice place to visit. Elisa
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[personal profile] misslucyjane 2009-03-26 02:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm so sorry this author was so careless and upsetting. I love your LJ: the reviews have introduced me to a lot of authors and movies I never would have heard of otherwise.

Feel better, sweetheart.

[identity profile] anahcrow.livejournal.com 2009-03-26 02:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I confess, I sometimes have trouble with 'man candy' posts, because I feel vaguely awkward about just looking at someone like they're an object. But you always talk about the models as people, who they are, where they come from, what their plans are, and so on. It makes me feel like you view the model as an artist as well, an active participant in the creation of the pictures that are so pleasing. I love that, that you aren't just interested in the product but in the person. It's the same way with your artist reviews: you could just look at the pretty, but you look at the motivation and the history as well. It IS classy. It makes you stand out in a very good way.

[identity profile] jshillingford.livejournal.com 2009-03-26 02:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Exectly! How could having a description not be helpful, regardless of whether the review is positive or negative. I have read discussions about people who click unhelpful just to be mean, or who don't like reviews from Amazon Vine people. Some reviewers even have "stalkers"!

[identity profile] elisa-rolle.livejournal.com 2009-03-26 02:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you misslucyjane, I will do as always, going home, taking a good book and spending the night reading. Books seldom make me upset. Elisa

[identity profile] elisa-rolle.livejournal.com 2009-03-26 02:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you :-) You understand me plenty. Elisa

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