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I'm Italian, my first language is Italian not English, in my profile there is the evidence that I live in Italy, I have never said that I studied English in a professional way, I always alert my English friends when I have to meet them that I don't speak fluently in English...

so please could you stop to leave nasty comments about my foreign languages skill?

IF you want to comment to help me, to warn me about a grammar error, to alert me if my sentence was bad phrased so much that what I want to say is not clear, you are welcome to do so.

BUT if you only want to be offensive, than go in another blog. First I didn't ask you to come here, if you did, it was your choice. Second, how many foreign languages do you know? When I was in school, I had 10/10 in Italian, literature and grammar, plus above the average vote in History. I graduated in Economics with 103/110 in 3,5 years when the time lapse was 4, and when the average in my University (one of the best Economics facutly in Italy) was 7...

Do you have the same results as me? If so, you are allowed to leave nasty comments, IN ITALIAN, on my LJ. We can play at the same level.
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Date: 2009-10-21 06:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zoenichols.livejournal.com
For the record, I still think your English is amazing.

Date: 2009-10-21 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elisa-rolle.livejournal.com
Thank you Zoe, you well know it's not true, but thank you :-) Elisa

Language

Date: 2009-10-21 06:56 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Are you serious that people write nasty comments to you? About your grammar? Just how empty are these people? Go get a life. Preferably someplace else.

Re: Language

Date: 2009-10-21 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elisa-rolle.livejournal.com
My same thought. Elisa

Date: 2009-10-21 06:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cbpotts.livejournal.com
I don't know how to say "You go girl!" in Italian, but please pretend like I did. Don't let the idiots get you down!

Date: 2009-10-21 07:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elisa-rolle.livejournal.com
It could be "Sei forte ragazza" (appreciation) or "Non mollare ragazza" (encouragement)... both versions, thank you. Elisa

Date: 2009-10-21 06:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] upstart-crow.livejournal.com
Seriously, that's just beyond rude. I hate it when people do that, and I wish you didn't have to deal with it.

Date: 2009-10-21 07:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elisa-rolle.livejournal.com
Unfortunately it was not the first time, but today it was quite nasty, and I was not in the mood to let it go.

Thank you for the kind words,

Elisa

Date: 2009-10-21 07:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anahcrow.livejournal.com
I love your 'accent' you have when you write. It's very dear, and I think it makes you unique. If someone can't take the time to find out more about you before they criticize, they're obviously not worth bothering with. Whether it's ESL or dyslexia or any other issue, having perfect grammar & spelling is not a prerequisite for being able to appreciate and even critique fiction. I can't believe after all this time, people are STILL getting on your case about this.

Date: 2009-10-21 07:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elisa-rolle.livejournal.com
Thank you. You are not the first to say that I have an "accent" when I write, and I now am proud of that. And yes, also I thought that, after all this time, people would have in the end stopped to bother but not, unfortunately it's not yet the case. Thank you, Elisa

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Crap on them!

Date: 2009-10-21 07:11 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Don't listen to their petty crap! Anyway you communicate a hell of a lot better than any of those English-speaking assholes. Piss on them! And I'll repeat it if they're too stupid to understand... Screw them, I say!

Mick

www.mykoladementiuk.com

Re: Crap on them!

Date: 2009-10-21 07:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elisa-rolle.livejournal.com
Thank you Mick, you said it better than me ;-) Elisa

Date: 2009-10-21 07:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] girlofavalon.livejournal.com
People can be so jerky sometimes! I am Brazilian and I've never stumbled upon the sort, but I'd probably tell them to go get a life. Your English isn't bad at all, believe me.

Date: 2009-10-21 07:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elisa-rolle.livejournal.com
Yes, probably they need a better life and are envious if someone else get it. Thank you, Elisa
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Date: 2009-10-21 07:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elisa-rolle.livejournal.com
Thank you Katrina, I know it's a long way to be perfect, but I think it's not so bad, and always get upset when read such comments. Elisa

Date: 2009-10-21 07:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] furriboots.livejournal.com
How utterly childish. I must admit that I get quite annoyed when I read incorrect spelling or grammar from a native English speaker since I find that those errors could be easily avoided but I am constantly amazed by all the wonderful friends I have made on LJ whose first language is not English and who have such an amazing grasp of it anyway. I wish I could claim such a facility with other languages. I am particularly impressed that you read so many books in English and write so many wonderful and helpful reviews and the odd incorrect word usage does not disturb me since it adds a flavour to your review that allows me to almost hear you speaking them out loud. I really think people need to find something else to do since they obviously have so much spare time to criticize you for minor errors which in no way detract from your enlightening contributions.

Date: 2009-10-21 07:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elisa-rolle.livejournal.com
Thank you. I started to read in English since I wanted so bad to read books that weren't available in Italian. I really wasn't of the idea to post reviews, but there were so many books and so few places where to find info, that I thought my LJ was a good place. I have never pretended to be a professional reviewer and always hurt when people get nasty on me. Elisa

Date: 2009-10-21 07:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elena-62.livejournal.com

Hi, Elisa!

For a moment I thought you've got a seizure of nationalism. ;-).

I'm really sorry to hear that you are being harassed because of your English.

It is unfair also because you master the language very well.

Anyway, you just have to think that there are good people and stupid people everywhere. Considering how many visitors your LJ has every day you have to take into account that some persons of the stupid sort will appear now and then. That's the life!

All my solidarity!

Ciao

Antonella

Date: 2009-10-21 07:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elisa-rolle.livejournal.com
Yes, the flag was quite big, wasn't it? Just to be sure people noticed... but I don't think I will put it in my profile ;-) Elisa

Date: 2009-10-21 07:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dubious-virtue.livejournal.com
Mean people suck. I'm sorry, Elisa.

Date: 2009-10-21 07:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elisa-rolle.livejournal.com
I should learn to not give a dxxx, but sometime I'm not in the mood to let it go. Thank you, Elisa

Date: 2009-10-21 07:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riaki.livejournal.com
But I think your English is exquisite!

What kind of retarded people wrote those nasty comments to you?

Pain no attention to them ;)

Date: 2009-10-21 07:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elisa-rolle.livejournal.com
My friends also said my accent is "charming" LOL. Always wonder if it's a way to say me that they don't understand what I say. Thank you, Elisa

Date: 2009-10-21 07:28 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] beckyblack
What?! What the heck is wrong with people? Rude idiots.

Reading your entries I could tell you weren't a native English speaker, but you're always understandable. If I could speak Italian as well as you can speak/write English I'd be very happy indeed!

Date: 2009-10-21 07:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elisa-rolle.livejournal.com
That is my focus, to be understandable, I don't pretend to be an "english grammar lesson". Thank you, Elisa

Date: 2009-10-21 07:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mongrelheart.livejournal.com
I'm shocked that people would leave nasty comments like that. Please, don't listen to them. Your English is excellent, and I'd also say it's far superior to that of many native English speakers I've met who can barely put a sentence together, verbally or in writing.

Date: 2009-10-21 07:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elisa-rolle.livejournal.com
Excellent maybe not, but it's enough that people understand what I write... Thank you, Elisa

Date: 2009-10-21 07:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cornflake2912.livejournal.com
Leaving you a German hug :)

Date: 2009-10-21 07:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elisa-rolle.livejournal.com
Replying with an Italian kiss :-) Elisa

Date: 2009-10-21 07:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] minami77.livejournal.com
omg, my first comment here and just look about what!

il mio inglese non è certo buono come il tuo, ma appena comprensibile ed io ti guardo e leggo sempre con grande piacere ed ammirazione. Il tuo LJ è fonte inesauribile di notizie e mi fa sperare che un giorno anche io nel mio piccolo possa diventare migliore nello scrivere, almeno tanto quanto lo sono ora nel leggere (anche se pure qui ho molta strada davanti).

Questo per dirti che apprezzo questo posto ed il tuo lavoro e che de gente idiota evidentemente ne è pieno il mondo.

Sorry if I wrote all this in Italian but my English in not as good as yours Elisa. Just want to tell you YOU ROCK GIRL!

Date: 2009-10-21 07:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elisa-rolle.livejournal.com
Grazie mille per le belle parole e fa sempre piacere trovare una connazionale che condivide le mie passioni. Certe volte mi sento un pesce fuor d'acqua. Ho iniziato a scrivere questo giornale in Inglese perchè in Italiano non avrei trovate molte persone con cui condividere le letture che facevo. Non pretendo che il mio inglese sia perfetto, ma non credo sia poi così male. Grazie, anche del commento in Italiano. Elisa
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Date: 2009-10-21 07:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elisa-rolle.livejournal.com
Thank you Paul. I should probably let it go, but then it's always something that bother me, so, well, sometime also I have my "bad" moment. Elisa

Date: 2009-10-21 07:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rocketbalm.livejournal.com
LOL well said. Some people are just ignorant. And your English is amazing.

I find most Europeans speak/write/understand English far better than we blunder through one of their languages. I'm Canadian so we have two official languages, French and English, for which I am very grateful. German however, is my first language, it's what we spoke at home. That said, I don't think I'm nearly half as proficient in either of my secondary languages as you are in English. Well done.

Date: 2009-10-21 07:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elisa-rolle.livejournal.com
Wow, three languages... I have always loved the idea, but I could only manage to learn English, almost by myself (with reading and travelling). Elisa

Date: 2009-10-21 08:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kika-k.livejournal.com
Uh! I pazzi/e hanno comlpito anche te! Mi spiace. Purtroppo ce ne sono moooooolti in giro. Non prenderla a male. Spallucce e vai avanti con lo splendido lavoro che fai qui nel tuo blog. :)

ciao

Date: 2009-10-21 08:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elisa-rolle.livejournal.com
Certe volte mi chiedo se non hanno altro da fare... che vadano da qualche altra parte, che è meglio ;-) Elisa

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Date: 2009-10-21 08:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jans-intentions.livejournal.com
Wow, I'm so sorry someone would do that. I have had several long term Italian friends for years. I marvel at their abilities to speak many other languages. I don't have that ability and I know most in North America can only manage one.

Date: 2009-10-21 08:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elisa-rolle.livejournal.com
Also in Italy the average is one, one and half... my English is my "half" ;-) Thank you, Elisa

Date: 2009-10-21 08:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-j-mirag.livejournal.com
Some people can be so rude and stupid!

Il tuo inglese mi pare molto bello.

Date: 2009-10-21 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elisa-rolle.livejournal.com
Grazie! From you it's even a better compliment since I know YOU speak and write two languages, and are very good. Elisa

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Date: 2009-10-21 08:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peachette48.livejournal.com
I wish I could speak and write Italian as well as you can speak and write English, sweetie.
Don't let the bastards get to you.

Date: 2009-10-21 08:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elisa-rolle.livejournal.com
Thank you Irene, even more for commenting on my little rant, I know you have more important thing to do that follow me on my bad mood. Elisa

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Date: 2009-10-21 08:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scarlethyacinth.livejournal.com
I cannot believe someone can be so mean. Seriously, don't people have something better to do than be petty? Sending you lots of hugs from Romania! Scarlet

Date: 2009-10-21 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elisa-rolle.livejournal.com
Thank you Scarlet, from Romania, as from Brazil, Germany and all the other country it's evem more appreciated. Elisa

Date: 2009-10-21 08:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] diannefox.livejournal.com
Grammar and spelling are two of my pet peeves. I get to the point of wanting to tear my hair out when I see misplaced commas and messed up verb tenses.

But even I recognize that there's nothing worth complaining about in your posts -- I can't write in Italian at all! So I don't expect you to have perfect English.

I'm actually really impressed at how clear and articulate you are in English, because in the only foreign language I know (ancient Greek), I can barely get by with saying hello and explaining how Achilles died.

And, as Anah said, something of your 'accent' comes through when you write in English, and in my head, it sounds lovely and lyrical. Definitely not something to complain about.

Date: 2009-10-21 08:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elisa-rolle.livejournal.com
> I can barely get by with saying hello and explaining how Achilles died.

That is an interesting thing to know and explain LOL

Thank you, Elisa

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Date: 2009-10-21 08:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] alex-beecroft.livejournal.com
Honestly, what an idiot! I bet it's all down to jealousy because you've got a hugely successful blog and lots of readers, whereas nobody listens to them at all. Which is hardly surprising if they're that petty all the time.

I only speak one language and I am constantly amazed and awed at the people like you who can communicate perfectly in a language that isn't their own.

Sei forte ragazza :) (Copied from a comment further up.)

Date: 2009-10-21 08:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elisa-rolle.livejournal.com
And they are always "anonymous" comments... so I can't even go to their home and leave comments in Italian (pout)

Thank you, Elisa

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